Question: I have a 91 Chrysler New Yorker which I will keep for 1 more year. My ac is blowing hot air, and I was told I had to be changed over to use the new freon, and my undestanding changing over is expensive. Can't I just get it recharged with the old freon instead of changing it over or should I spend the money? I have 65,555 miles on it and it's still is a decent car. The production of Freon (R-12) in the United
States ended in 1995. This caused the price of that refrigerant to skyrocket. R-134a, the common replacement for Freon is a
less expensive refrigerant. It is widely
available, whereas R-12 is getting harder to find. Small twelve ounce cans of Freon which once
were available at nearly every auto parts store are almost extinct. This means service shops that plan on
topping-off or refilling R12 equipped vehicles will have to purchase larger 30
pound containers. An investment some are
not willing to make. Many shops now have
an “R-134a only” approach.
Retrofitting, or converting to R-134a does not always
require great expense. Sometimes,
service port adapters and synthetic refrigerant oil are the only extra
expense. Not all cars are created equal
though. Some vehicles will require
additional high side pressure switches, and other vehicles may require
condenser replacement - or - condenser fan upgrade. Since R-134a is less efficient, sometimes
these changes are necessary. This largely
depends on how the vehicle was originally designed. A system that performed marginally with R-12
will probably require the most retrofit associated cost. Also, if the system didn’t work at all with
R-12, it certainly won’t work with R-134a.
One advantage of retrofitting is the potential long term
savings. Once the vehicle is converted,
and it’s done correctly, any future service or recharge should cost less since
you’ve already retrofitted. For example;
let’s assume you have your 1991 Chrysler New Yorker in to have the A/C checked. You plan on keeping that car for at least one
more year, maybe two. The technician checking
the A/C doesn’t find any leaks, and believes the system should perform well
with R-134a, utilizing many of the existing components. He plans on replacing the refrigerant oil,
receiver-drier, pressure relief valve, high pressure cut off switch, and
adapting the service ports with conversion fittings. The total cost to you is a hypothetical $330. He has plenty of R12 too, and gives you a
second estimate so you can make an informed decision. His second estimate consists only of
evacuating and recharging you car with R-12.
That estimate is a hypothetical $220.
Nearly half that estimate is refrigerant alone. You compare the two estimates and figure retrofitting
will cost $110 over the R-12 service.
Now, here’s where the savings can kick in. Let’s assume our technician doesn’t find any
leaks, but you know from experience that each year you need to get the system
recharged. Otherwise, it works
fine. Based on that, let’s assume if
you keep the car two years you’ll probably have to get it charged twice. If it’s already been retrofitted, you might
be able to get that evacuation and recharge done at any shop in about one hour for
roughly $100. Total cost for two
recharges including the retrofit, $430.
Let’s assume you don’t retrofit and keep charging it with R-12. In two years that should cost $440, based on
$220 per recharge times two. Hey, what’s
ten dollars over two years? Besides, R12
works better and keeps you slightly more comfortable. Ah, but what if you have that first R-12
recharge done and it only lasts one month.
With an A/C system that old, it could spring leaks at any given moment. After all, those old components won’t hold
forever. That’s where R-134a could save
you. After one month, Mr. Shop owner may
even re-check that system and quite possibly recharge your car with R-134a as a
goodwill gesture. Who knows? Maybe he wants to do his part to make things
right. He explains that he found a minor
leak, maybe a loose connection or a leaky Schrader valve. He tightens it up, and sends you on your
way. Now, let’s assume we’re talking R-12. You know, Freon, that jug they keep locked up
in the office. Are we likely to get any
goodwill gestures out of the jug they refer to as liquid gold? In this case, you’ll most likely be on your
own. One month later, you’ll not only
be faced with a leak repair, you’ll need to shell out another $220, again,
largely due the cost of refrigerant.
Here’s something few people consider. Since our hypothetical shop owner may be
reluctant to give away his remaining stock of R-12 for warranty concern, he could
become overly cautious in his leak repair estimates. In other words, he might price suspect parts
as insurance against future leaks. Now,
that car you plan on keeping for two years will cost much more to repair. Not necessarily because your mechanic is a
crook, but because it’s important that he contain this expensive gas.
While Chrysler recommends retrofitting as an option should
R-12 become unavailable, we think from a cost perspective it may be the right
choice to retrofit now.
Additional Resources / External Links
U.S. EPA
It's Your Choice: Retrofitting Your
Car's A/C System U.S. EPA: Guidance on Retrofitting to HFC-134a
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