Posted by JJMuccio on October 23, 2000 at 20:08:11: via: or 151.202.75.60
In Reply to: Re: Gee George, you paint a dark picture of PAG and I gather R-134a posted by George Goble on October 23, 2000 at 16:28:12:
"The great mass of people … will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one."
- Mein Kampf (1925) by Adolph Hitler.
The CFC scare is a big lie (R-12 contains CFC’s), which dates back to 1970, when scientists discovered that CFC’s might harm the ozone layer. Then, in 1974 chemists at the University of California at Irvine "discovered" the ozone-depleting effects of CFC’s. The CFC scare gained momentum in 1985 when British scientists first discovered the ozone hole over Antarctica.
There is no credible scientific evidence, or even theory, documenting when hole in the ozone layer over Antarctica actually appeared. For all we know, the ozone hole could have been there for thousands of years, long before CFC’s began widespread use in the 1930’s and thereon. Since ozone is naturally produced by the sun, the ozone hole over Antarctica is more likely the result of the lack of sunlight occurring each year over this region as the Earth tilts on its axis. This fact is ignored, and the CFC’s in your hair spray and air conditioner are blamed instead.
I dare any credible scientist to answer the following question in the affirmative: If we were to put CFC production into overdrive for the next five years, and then release ALL the CFC’s into atmosphere en masse, would we be able to destroy the ozone layer?
Chlorine, the culpable element of R-12, destroys ozone molecules via a catalytic reaction (it is not consumed as it destroys the ozone). But ozone is produced by the sun at a rate of several tons per second, via UV radiation from the sun striking and dividing the oxygen (O2) molecule, and the two separate reactive oxygen atoms quickly combining with other oxygen molecules to form ozone (O3). As long as the sun puts out UV radiation at the right wavelength and there is sufficient oxygen the stratosphere, we need not worry about the ozone layer.
Ask yourself this question, if R-12 were such a voracious eater of ozone, why are so many ozone advisories issued throughout the summer?
Talk about government hypocrisy, though: a 1991 estimation from NASA showed that each shuttle launch released 75 tons (yes, tons) of chlorine into the atmosphere. This notwithstanding, the chlorine (hydrochloric acid) that spewed out in the last eruption of Mount Pinatubo was 500 times larger than the annual production of CFCs in the entire world. What about the chlorine (sodium chloride) from the evaporation of sea water loaded with salt? And the EPA is worried about the couple of pounds of Freon in your air conditioner.
Every air conditioning technician knows R-12 is heavier than air, which is why leak detection equipment is utilized BELOW the source of the leak. Honestly, does it seem plausible that R-12, being 4 to 8 times heavier than air, travels 12 to 30 miles up into the atmosphere, supposedly by "polar winds", and then remains there to attack the ozone layer? Perhaps my TIF XP1 Halogen Hawk is just plain lying to me.
To make matters worse, the substitute for R-12 is R-134A, and while more ozone friendly, R-134a contributes to "greenhouse gases" hence contributing to "global warming" – oh no! Not to worry, it too is already slated to be banned, albeit in 2030. It’s likely that almost every conceivable refrigerant will cause some kind of environmental malady in the eyes of those who are wholly against American progress and improved living standards.
Finally, as a matter of national interest, we simply cannot allow unelected socialist global organizations like the United Nations jeopardize our sovereignty, liberty and prosperity.
Joe